President Obama at a town hall meeting earlier this week pushing his health care reform plan
"The fact of the matter is
there are not the votes in the United States Senate for a public
option. There never have been," Conrad said on "Fox News Sunday."
His comment signaled a shift in the health care debate, with Obama and
senior advisers softening their support for a public option by saying
final form of the legislation is less important than the principle of
affordable coverage available to all.
At a town hall meeting Saturday in Colorado, Obama said the public option is just one of many issues critical to successfully overhauling the ailing health care system.
"All I'm saying is ... that the public option, whether we have it or we
don't have it, is not the entirety of health care reform. This is just
one sliver of it," the president said.
Asked Sunday if Obama
would accept a bill lacking a public option, White House spokesman
Robert Gibbs said the president insists on more competition in the
health insurance marketplace to offer consumers better choices.
"The bottom line ... is: Do individuals looking for health insurance in
the private market have choice and competition?" Gibbs said on the CBS
program "Face the Nation." "If we have that, the president will be
satisfied."
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen
Sebelius echoed Gibbs, telling CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday
that a final health care bill will include competitive choices for consumers in one form or another.
"There will be a competitor to private insurers," she said. "You don't
turn over the whole new marketplace to private insurance companies and
trust them to do the right thing. We need some choices and we need some
competition."
Opponents of overhauling the health care system
argue the Democratic proposals under consideration by Congress go too
far and will lead to a government takeover of the health care system.
"We have the best health care system in the world," Republican Sen.
Richard Shelby of Alabama told "Fox News Sunday." "We need to expand
it. We do not need to destroy it."
At issue is how to provide coverage for an estimated 46 million uninsured people while reversing a climb in health care costs.
Democratic proposals passed so far by House and Senate committees
include a public insurance option, mandates for people to be insured
and employers to provide coverage, and an end to insurance companies
refusing to cover pre-existing conditions.
Most Republicans
oppose the public option and requirements for employers to provide
coverage. They also call for limits on medical malpractice lawsuits --
something Democrats generally don't favor. However, the two parties
generally agree on a number of provisions contained in the Democratic
bills, including increased efficiency in Medicare and Medicaid and
focusing on preventive health programs.
Conrad
is one of six Senate Finance Committee members -- three Democrats and
three Republicans -- who are negotiating a compromise health care bill
that would be the only bipartisan proposal so far.
Instead of a
public option, the negotiators are considering a plan proposed by
Conrad to create nonprofit health insurance cooperatives that could
negotiate coverage as a collective for their members.
Conrad
said such cooperatives would provide the competition sought by Obama
and Democratic leaders to force private insurers to hold down costs and
improve practices. The government would put up initial funding to
provide required reserves but would have no other role, he said.
"It's not a public plan at all in terms of government running it," Conrad said.
Shelby called the cooperative idea a "step in the right direction" and
"a far cry" from other proposals, adding that Obama and Democratic
leaders have "read the tea leaves" from town hall meetings around the
country.
However, Democratic Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson of Texas
told CNN it would be "very, very difficult" to support a bill that
lacked a public health insurance option.
"Without the public
option, we'll have the same number of people uninsured," Johnson said
in a "State of the Union" interview. "If the insurance companies wanted
to insure these people now, they'd be insured."
She added that
"an option that would give the private insurance companies a little
competition" is "the only way" to be sure that insurance is available
to low-income people and people without employer-provided coverage.
Meanwhile, leaders of organizations representing America's doctors and
senior citizens defended the proposed health care overhaul that their
groups had opposed in past years.
Dr. J. James Rohack, president
of the American Medical Association, and John Rother of AARP --
formerly the American Association of Retired Persons -- told "Fox News
Sunday" a comprehensive overhaul sought by Democrats was necessary.
"There are some moving parts that if you just do one and don't do the
other, you're going to have unintended consequences," said Rohack, head
of the nation's largest doctors' advocacy group.
Rother,
executive vice president of policy and strategy for the largest senior
citizens' advocacy group, said properly addressing excessive health
care costs and waste requires addressing both health insurance coverage
and how health care treatment is delivered.
Both men rejected
accusations that a health care overhaul would bring rationing of health
treatment based on bureaucratic measures such as cost and economic
productivity of patients.
"There's a myth that rationing doesn't
occur right now," Rohack said, noting that some companies currently
deny coverage for pregnancy as a pre-existing condition.
"That's
why this bill is so important," Rohack said. "It gets rid of rationing
happening right now" and leaves decisions to patients and doctors.
Rohack also condemned claims by some Republicans that a provision in
one House bill would lead to so-called "death panels" encouraging
euthanasia of senior citizens.
"That's absolutely wrong, it's a
falsehood," he said, adding that the provision was intended to provide
government support for consultations between patients and their doctors.
Spreading of the "death panel" rumor by some conservative commentators
and some Republican politicians prompted emotional opposition at town
hall meetings across the country. Senate negotiators on a compromise
bill say they have dropped the provision from their proposal due to
potential misinterpretation of the intent.